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Re: Wingfield Applications-of-Arms
associations of people, (the new Wingfields have been explored fairly well, and you will despite my typo with the Howard family, I really do have the pedigree precisely annotated here in RI) >>
I’m not sure that is a precise statement. Do your own guide target the new age bracket *prior* to John Russell whom elizabeth the mother and father away from Age Russell just who m Sir Robert Wingfield ?
Re: ? Comyn partner from Malise
We have next in order to submit some of the openings your inform you forthe higher-grand-parents out of Reginald ce Cheyne. Among the many primaryadditions is due to his paternal granny (NN on your own article) havingbeen Mary de Moravia (als de- Moray), sister and you may coheiress out of Freskinde Moravia of Duffus (their particular mothers Walter de Moravia and Euphemia ofRoss are available below). You’ve got the concern regarding his maternalgrandmother: We hold she try Joanna de- Menteith, 2nd partner regarding Malise,Earl away from Strathearn. This will at the least promote an almost explanationfor Joanna’s child Helen off Strathearn (spouse successively ofReginald ce Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de- Graham) beingnamed for Helen de- Menteith, aunt off Joanna and you can partner regarding Sir ColinCampbell away from Lochow (d. bef Get 1343).
Sadly, I do believe discover additional openings for the Muriel Keith’sancestry (come across less than). Regarding possibly enhancements recommended towards tablesbelow, please recommend of every indexed disputes, or what documentationmight imply one mistake indexed.
I have gaps in ancestries, but ferociously in that out of Reginald.Getting Muriel Keith, their high-grand-parents We show1 William de- Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton
I am not saying aware of one records giving support to the identification in the partner as the Barbara Seton. When you yourself have indexed people, excite advise.
3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander out of /Fraser/ Chamberlain from Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/
Sir Alexander Fraser married Mary Bruce (or de- Brus), together with an effective young buck John identified as ‘nepos’ from Robert _the_Bruce. This young man try a more youthful John, however, and not his heir. John Fraser, later on lord out-of Aboyne, was new child off an initial marriage (that it spouse not familiar; I have so it to your authority out of Andrew MacEwen).
3 Walter de- Moravia (son from Hugh de Moravia, and you may Annabela off Fife) 4 Euphemia of Ross (dau. from Fearchar, very first Earl from Ross and NN deBrus)
5 Malise, 6th Earl regarding /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 Sir John de Menteith (son from Walter Stewart, Elizabeth from Menteith and you will
The fresh consanguinity between Muriel Keith and you may Reginald le Cheyne -recognized to was an effective-grandson from Malise, Earl of Strathearn (d.1312) – is the sole evidence (when the indirect) that these a couple individualshad at least one predecessor/ancestress in common.
I’ve holes in ancestries, but ferociously for the reason that regarding Reginald.To possess Muriel Keith, their unique higher-grandparents I show1 William de Keith d bef 12932 Barbara Seton3 Alexander de Synton4 NN5 Alexander away from /Fraser/ Chamberlain out of Scotland d step 3 Aug 13326 Mary de- Brus, Baroness /Fraser/7 NN Fraser8 NN
To possess Reginald le Cheney it’s sparse1 hitta Lettiska kvinnor online NN Cheney , dos NN, 3 NN, 4 NN5 Malise, sixth Earl off /Strathearn/ bef 1281- d Agnes NN perhaps Comyn d aft 13097 and you will 8 NN
Re: Agnes Beler
Woodford, very early 15the century, into the Leicestershire. E try the fresh d Villiers and Agnes Beler. Now, I would like to link Agnes to help you Sir Roger Beler, killed by Eustace de Folville, but I can’t pick people facts about their particular. Is anyone let?